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Deed to the County:

A  Forum Between Mike Goschka & Millie Dodak On

The Controversial  Campaign for Saginaw 's Register of Deeds

 

 

By Robert E. Martin


        The combative race for Saginaw County Register of Deeds between18-year Democratic incumbent Mildred Dodak and 12-year Republican state legislator Mike Goschka has turned into one of the most hotly contested local races of the 2004 election cycle.
 

Critics of Goschka's move claim that due to term limits the clock is running out on his legislative career and this bid to wrestle the Register of Deeds office away from Dodak serves as a perfect example of a 'career politician' looking to add a fresh salary to his existing pension plan. 
They also claim Goschka was elected to serve out his full 4-year term as State Senator and that by leaving two years early he will be turning his back on residents by abandoning his pivotal role as Chairman of such committees as The Senate Appropriation for Higher Education,
Saginaw Valley State University's key funding source.
     

Critics of Dodak claim that an unacceptable backlog exists in the Register of Deeds office and that she has outsourced union jobs to non-union workers.  They assert that Goschka's reputation for constituent service will bring more efficiency to the office.
       

Recently we conducted a forum with each of the two candidates, asking them to shed light on these allegations and state their case as to who is better qualified to fill the Register of Deeds position, beginning with the fundamental issue of motivation.
   
Review: Why are you running for Register of Deeds?

Dodak:
I am running for re-election to the office of Register of Deeds because I have served Saginaw County in this capacity for the last 18 years. I have the knowledge of all 57 statutes that regulates the recording process. I have worked very hard to make the Register's office automated with on-line information available, going back to 1982, and will continue to do so.

Goschka: I am running for Saginaw County Register of Deeds because I have greatly enjoyed being in public service, and I would like to make an immediate, positive impact for the residents of Saginaw County at the county level.  There have been several deficiencies in the Register of Deeds office, particularly with the 3-month backlog and the outsourcing of union jobs to non-union workers, and I believe that my election will result in benefiting and satisfying the residents of Saginaw County.

Review: What makes you the best-qualified candidate for Register of Deeds?

Dodak:
My 18 years of service & experience.  The knowledge I have gained over the years regarding recording requirements. The leadership that I have gained serving on the Michigan Association of Registers of Deeds executive board for the last four years, and holding the position as President this last year.

Goschka: As a 12-year state legislator, I have a strong record of timely and conscientious service to my constituents.  I have always made it my goal to understand the issues as they pertain to my district, and I have been effective at cutting government red tape that can so easily engulf our lives. 

The current problems and concerns regarding the office of Register of Deeds are glaring, the most serious of which is the 3-month backlog.  The office needs a leader who will tend to the needs and concerns of those who conduct their business there.  It's about constituent service.  As the next Register of Deeds, I am prepared to take this and other issues on to the full benefit and satisfaction of the residents of Saginaw County.


Review: What improvements would you make in the Register of Deeds office?

Dodak:
Saginaw County was the first county to go on-line with an automated indexing system that was started in 1982, giving our county 22 years of on-line information.
In 1988 I secured a new indexing system, at no cost to the county, that broadens the capability for indexing information and gave us the ability to develop our property tract.

       

In 1990 we were the first County to have a labeling systems for County Transfer Tax that was approved by the Michigan Department of Treasury and is used in every county in our state.
 

In 2000 I secured funds to purchase an automated image scanning system that allows the image of the document you are searching for to appear on the screen and copies to be made with a simple push of a button.
       

In 2002 the Register of Deeds website went up. This allows anyone that has web access to search for information at no cost.
Soon we will have our e-commerce site completed, giving web access to not only our indexes but also the image of the document you wish to see and again allowing copies to be made from one's office or home.

Goschka: The first issue to address is the 3-month backlog.  It simply is wrong for the holder of this office to wait until an election to recognize this as a problem. 

It was wrong to outsource union work to non-union workers. 

I will also be a full-time Register of Deeds, putting in a full day's work for a full day's pay.  The taxpayers deserve no less.  Another of my goals is to fully establish an e-commerce site in which the customer can print the document that is being searched right from their office or home. 
I also intend to take my turn at the counter, serving people personally, learning their concerns firsthand.  Finally, I want to establish a culture of being customer-oriented and user-friendly.

Review: An issue has been made of the fact that most of Senator Goschka's contributions toward this campaign have come from
Lansing, while all of your contributions have come from Saginaw County residents. What is your position on this?

Dodak:
This is a fact.
Mr. Goschka's first campaign statement showed that he had received 99 percent of his money from Lansing. This tells me two things. First, he is having difficulty raising money from his constituents; and second, Lansing is trying to buy this election. Unlike my opponent I am raising money for my campaign from the people in Saginaw County. These are the contributions from strong supporters that do not want Lansing determining this election.

Goschka: The information that has been reported on this issue is incomplete and inaccurate.  The fact is that I did have a slow start in raising local campaign funds for this race, but only because I didn't send out any solicitations for funds until after the Supreme Court opined in a 7-0 ruling that it is legal for me to run for the office of Register of Deeds.
  

(Editor's Note: Democrats filed suit claiming that because he was a sitting Senator the State Constitution prohibited his running for the Register of Deeds office. The Supreme Court ruled that the prohibition applies only to 'appointments' and not elected officials.)

You may recall that I was initially ruled off of the ballot by a lower court until the Supreme Court intervened fairly close to the Primary Election.  That issue gave me a slow start in virtually everything connected with this race.  To date, I have raised $11,510 from Saginaw County residents, while my opponent has reported raising $3,670. 

The question that has been posed is also inaccurate because it inherently assumes that Mrs. Dodak has not received any out-of-county money.  She has actually raised $1,825 from outside the county, $1,000 of which came from the state of Texas.  Conversely, I have received no out-of-state money. 

Clearly, as of this time, I have received more in contributions from Saginaw County residents than has Mrs. Dodak.

Review:  Mrs. Dodak, Senator Goschka has accused you of outsourcing work from your office to foreign workers. What is your perspective on this?

Dodak:
My office experienced an increase of 58 percent in volume of documents to be recorded just over the last two years. My office was one slated for staff reduction by our Board of Commissioners due to Revenue Sharing cuts, which by the way Mike Goschka voted for.
   

When both problems hit at the same time it caused a delay in the recording process because every document that is received must be, by statute, processed right down to each page.

       

Technology enhancements over the last few years kept the recording process at a certain level, but gaining on the backlog became the problem. At this particular time every large county was experiencing similar problems and some are still struggling to get current with recordings.
       

The search began last November for a vendor that might have the capability of helping, long before Goschka announced to run for my office.  Unfortunately none were found in Saginaw. I discovered several out of state but very few in Michigan.

I went with HTC Company whose headquarters are located in Troy, Michigan, because of their experience with our software and the recording process. They confirmed with me in writing that all work would be done by their company in Troy, not 'India' or 'China' as my opponent has stated.
   

Hiring this company to help offset the demands on my office allowed the time needed to process the backlog. The service they provided was nothing more than a very highly sophisticated temp service that was accomplished over our website.

If the interest rates were to drop and we were to experience the same type of volume, I would not hesitate to do it all over again.

Review: Mr. Goschka, if you are elected Register of Deeds, special primary and general elections will be required to fill your Senate seat at a cost of $154,000 in
Saginaw County alone. How do you justify this cost to the taxpayers during difficult budget times?

Goschka:
With the election consolidation legislation that was passed by the Legislature and signed into law by the Governor last year, the costs of special elections have been greatly reduced. 

Elections will now fall on four different days of the year, when other local elections will already be taking place.  If I win this election, it is my sense that a special primary election would take place on the fourth Tuesday of February, when several municipalities will already be holding various local elections; the special general election would most probably take place on the second Tuesday in May, when school board elections would already be taking place throughout the state. 
The intent of this legislation was to save municipalities and counties money. 

 

By design, the figures that have been floated by my opposition have been greatly exaggerated.

Review:  Mrs. Dodak, to your knowledge has Senator Goschka ever set foot in the Register of Deeds office?

Dodak:
As long as I have been register Mike Goschka has never put one foot in my office, nor does he know the functions of the office. A former staff person of Goschka's told me when he announced his attentions to run for the Register of Deeds position that he instructed his staff to do some research as to the duties of the office. His first media statement was "he would lower the fees."  If he had done his work in Lansing he would have known that the only way to lower the fees is through legislation.

Review: Under what circumstances, Mr. Goschka, do you think it appropriate to seek another office midway through a term of another office you were elected to?  How will the residents of
Gratiot County who supported you for State Senate benefit from you vacating your office as State Senator?

Goschka:
As ruled by the Supreme Court, it is most appropriate that I run for this office.  The only way that I will become the Register of Deeds is if the people of Saginaw County elect me to that position.  It is entirely the call of the voters. 

I truly hope that I win, but other than putting my name on the ballot, it is up to the voters of Saginaw County to make that call.  I hope they choose me because I can make an immediate, positive impact at the county level.

 I have greatly appreciated serving the people of Gratiot County, and win or lose in this race; I will always appreciate the honor of serving as their Senator. 

Incidentally, how many years does John Kerry have to go before serving the rest of his term in the U.S. Senate?

Review: Feel free to add any other comments.

Dodak:
Mr. Goschka's latest attempts to discredit my ability to run my office was to have me followed for THREE MONTHS. Of course he cannot reveal his source, so is Mike following me or is it someone he hired? Is it a state employee, or one of Mike's people working on state time paid with tax dollars?

       

I just cannot believe that a sitting State Senator would ever lower himself to having his opponent stalked. If there is a need to monitor someone it should be Goschka. Just look at his latest attempt with legislation to eliminate our County Auditors. They are set by statute and their purpose it to keep a handle on the County's expense & revenue. He managed to pass something, but it accomplished nothing because we still have auditors!
  

I think he is one of the most ineffective and non-productive legislators in Lansing. But on the other hand he should get an award for shaking the most hands and giving the most promises (unfulfilled, of course.)

Goschka:  Apart from all the personal attacks and allegations that have been leveled against me in this election, I truly believe that the residents of Saginaw County are interested in the issues and record of the candidates.

My record of working with constituents throughout my career speaks for itself, and in talking to people in the industry that utilize the Register of Deeds office most frequently, the biggest complaint I hear concerns backlogs and inefficiency.
    

If elected, I will do a full day's work. The person that brought the information to me regarding Mrs. Dodak's work hours was not a State employee and was not hired by me - they worked within County government and came to me.
       

As for County Auditors, Saginaw is the only county in Michigan that has a Board of Auditors and this recommendation to eliminate them that came out of Lansing was lobbied for by Lou Dodak. 
  

Finally, while I am not completely familiar with all of the nuances of Saginaw County's Register of Deeds office, I have become familiar with the operations by examining the work loads of three other county Register of Deed offices in the State of Michigan, and my overall experience as an effective State Legislator over the past 18-years proves that I am most capable of efficiently serving citizens should I be elected to this office.

 
 

 

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