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OK GO GETS GOING Live, they cover the likes of Elvis Costello, Whitesnake (not a typo), Toto (also not a typo), and The Smiths. On record, they uncover their own unique brand of power pop that's quite familiar, yet also somehow utterly new. OK Go singer Damian Kulash recently talked with musician and writer Kristi Kates about playing live, the return of melody, and those damned catchy N'Sync songs. - Robert E. Martin by Kristi Kates Chicago band OK Go - collectively, Brown University semiotics major Damian Kulash (vocals), Andy Duncan (keyboards and guitar), Tim Nordwind (bass) and Dan Konopka (drums) - have already had their story typed up dozens of times. The facts: Kulash and Nordwind met at "dorky summer band camp" - that being Michigan's own Interlochen Arts Academy - when they were 12 (Nordwind being from Kalamazoo). They ran into Duncan and Konopka at college in Chicago, and took them along for the ride as OK Go's new wave-influenced pop songcraft - including insanely catchy tracks like "Hello, My Treacherous Friends," "Don't Ask Me," "1,000 Miles Per Hour," and the band's first single, "Get Over It" - caught on. Soon, they were opening for likes of Elliott Smith and The Promise Ring, selling out their own shows, and snagging They Might Be Giants' John Flansbergh as their manager. A deal with Capitol Records wasn't far behind, and now, after being written up glowingly in the likes of Alternative Press, Blender, CMJ, the L.A. Times, Entertainment Weekly, Elle, and YM, they're gearing up for what's looking to be an extensive round of touring in the U.S. and in England. As a warm-up, they recently wrapped a live performance at the Sundance Film Festival, which singer Kulash found both fun and somewhat contradictory to the spirit of OK Go. "It was kind of... Hollywoody," he carefully explains, "we went over well, and it was fun, but there's this predatory, weird thing about Sundance that seems to counter the spirit of people getting together to watch each other's stuff." Indeed - that's what Sundance was conceived for in the first place. But
since it's degenerated into a power-playing, cell-phone overrun trend event
("I can't say much about the cell phones, since I'm on mine all the time
now, but you know what I mean," the singer chuckles), Kulash, although
appreciative of the opportunity to play there, has better things to do.
"You know how it is - there are good venues and bad venues," he explains, "but it's more about the crowd, don't you think? What I really want is to keep playing at places that are small and excitable. I like being able to see everyone in the room, I like being able to see that the people in the back are dancing, you know?" Dancing being a familiar sight at OK Go shows, it's understandable that Kulash would want to keep that connection going. U.S. audiences are getting hooked on the fact that the band makes pop music that is, more than anything, fun - a fizzy combination of sing-along, witty lyrics, synth-laden choruses, and sharp instrumentation. So their current U.S. tour schedule should be nothing less than a success. But will England feel the same way when OK Go hits Brit shores in March? "The scene is kind of strange over there," Kulash ponders, "it's weird how small the scene is, and how fast things get absorbed. Two or three influential people will say that something's awesome, and suddenly it's the big thing, then, a month later, it's not. Having made a record in the States, it seemed normal to watch people's reactions at our label when the album came out - but now, even though the album's been out for a while, we're going to have to go through those same convolutions over in England, from people that are kind of out of time with it. It's crazy how these things work." If OK Go just keeps doing what they're doing, though, British audiences might just be drawn in as much as U.S. audiences have been so far. Even Kulash's influences-slash-contemporaries have been intrigued enough to pop in at some of the band's appearances. "We played a Cheap Trick song for Cheap Trick in the studio once - they were a huge influence on me when I was 18 or 19. We were playing in D.C. once, and I looked down and saw Henry Rollins and Ian MacKaye (Fugazi) standing shoulder to shoulder in the front row. It's amazing, but terrifying, having someone whose work you admire standing right there." So, who do the guys of OK Go have influencing them from their respective CD players? "As for me, I got an ipod - I'm a complete yuppie now," Kulash jokes, "Have you seen those things? They're amazing. I've got, like, 500 albums in there. What I'm listening to the most right now, though, is the Navy Blues record by Sloan, and I can't get over this collection I have of the best of Bill Withers, it's unbelievable. As far as the band goes, we all listen to similarly various things, if that makes sense," he laughs, "we usually agree on what's good - no one really has a style that they don't like. Sometimes we disagree about which hip-hop group is the best, or modern country versus older country. Tim likes Kiss a little more than I do, I like Cheap Trick more than he does. And we can have a healthy argument about whether Justin Timberlake is channeling that whole Michael Jackson thing too much or not." Justin Timberlake? "I'm unashamed to say that some of the best pop music I've ever heard is N'Sync songs," Kulash explains, "I mean, they get the best people to write for them. It's hard to listen to them in their current state and hear anything but the shininess of the promotion, but if you heard, say, the Rolling Stones do "Bye Bye Bye," it'd be a different story." If they're lucky, fans might just get to hear OK Go themselves doing a cover of "Bye Bye Bye" - well, okay, maybe not that song, particularly, but perhaps a few tunes by the likes of The Cure, The Breeders, or The Specials. "We just had a week off recently, and we spent it in the studio, recording versions of cover songs," Kulash enthuses, "it was fun for us to record and have it not really matter how it turned out. One day it may get released, or it may not - it was just kind of a present to ourselves." Pop music being in the strange state it's in today, winding down from the last phase of teen-pop and rap-metal, OK Go is hitting the scene at a great time - right as real melody is returning to songs, from the White Stripes to Coldplay. "It's interesting that you mention those two bands," Kulash muses, "one's really raw, and the other's not." Well, although the two bands' styles are vastly different, they're still based on melodic songwriting - much as OK Go's tunes are. "True," Kulash agrees, "Yeah. That's exactly how I feel about it. It is a super good time for rock - there isn't this monolithic thing we're all 'supposed' to sound like. From a purely distanced view, it's actually a good thing that none of those bands have bashed through the American consciousness and made everyone buy it, like a Creed or a Britney Spears record - this way, labels still have to take risks and make choices. And it's not like everyone likes the exact same new band - there's so much going on that you have to form your own opinions. I'm as much a fan as anybody else of the Stripes, the Strokes, the Hives - but I'm also a huge fan of the new Spoon record - and although a lot of it's been called retro, it's really all just good pop songs." And from what's been heard of OK Go so far, Damian Kulash definitely knows what good pop songs are all about.
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