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PROZAK: Saginaw's 'Hitchcock of Hip-Hop'
on His Accelerated Ride to the Top of the Charts
By Robert E. Martin
You
can see his image plastered all over town - an old rusted film projector coming
out of his skull with a flashlight taped to the side - on over 17 billboards
spanning strategic placement throughout Saginaw County; both a testament to his
hard fought success and a beacon marking unknown heights for the future. For
Steve Shippy (aka 'Prozak) the billboards are but one component of a $1.5
million marketing campaign spanning the country, marking the remarkable fact
that his new solo CD Tales From the Sick managed to breakout in
Billboard Magazine's R&B/Hip-Hop charts at #52 its first week of
release, outselling such mainstay icons as Jay-Z and Mary J. Blige,
while catapulting the Saginaw native to a whole new level & dimension of
success.
A decade earlier when Prozak comprised one half of the two-man 'Horror Rap' team
known as Bedlam, he was pioneering a heavy-edged marriage between Hip Hop
& Horror, earning him a moniker as the 'Hitchcock of Hip Hop'. Later he
teamed up with Detroit producer Mike E. Clark (Insane Clown Posse
and Kid Rock) to form the breakout union of Project Deadman, which
also debuted at #84 on Billboard the week of its release.
Now that he is embarking upon a solo career, Prozak is determined to
further redefine his love of Rap music with a grim world-view perspective.
Embracing the types of topics - political & personal - that most artists shy
away from has given him a definitive marketing edge; but the music is still the
bedrock that fuels it all. "Everybody has a grim, dark side," reflects Prozak,
"and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that we live in grim times. My
music reflects those times."
When asked about his expanding popularity during a recent lunch meeting at
Jake's in Old Saginaw City, Prozak noted that "The darker realities of our
culture are spreading, so I make it easy to digest, so people and identify and
vent their frustrations. I've been doing this for a decade, and when I started I
was ahead of my time. Now the times seem to be catching up."
Apart from a sizable diamond ring and custom-designed 'bling' in the form of a
pendant skull necklace, little about Prozak seems to have changed - he is
still down-to-earth, approachable, and seemingly unfazed by his newfound & hard
fought success. He still calls Saginaw his home and rents the entire floor of an
upstairs apartment in Downtown Saginaw overlooking the Temple Theatre.
"It's funny," he notes, "because I always tell people that I'm from Saginaw, not
Detroit, because this is my home and why should I lie about it? But the
perception people have of Saginaw is so different from the reality. Some famous
contemporaries will say to me, 'Saginaw, what is that all about?' And they don't
realize that it's a vibrant, different and complex city. I always tell
them, 'Saginaw isn't some Mayberry RFD kind of town. It's not like Gaylord.
There is a lot of texture to this town."
Review: When you look back on your beginnings with Bedlam to the point of
success & attention you've received today, did you ever imagine your vision
would become so successful?
Prozak:I
always knew my drive would land me somewhere, and I always knew there must be
some purpose for the drive. Having said that, many people have drive and talent,
but don't always end up where they dream to be. So, I will call this hard work,
talent, drive, and fate... with a touch of luck.
Review: In looking back at your evolution from Bedlam, up through
Project Deadman, and now with your solo material, what do you feel it is about
your work that distinguishes you from your contemporaries?
Prozak: I think I have a very original and UNUSUAL STYLE. I have always
had a way of attacking things from angles that most don't see, or think of.
Review: Please explain the background behind 'Tales from the Sick'.
How long did it take to write the material and what was the impetus behind the
project?
Prozak:
Tales from the Sick
took a year and a half to make, from conception, to the mastering. It was
intended to be a giant collaborative effort from myself, and those I work with,
and have always wanted to work with. This album to me, is a Grindhouse if you
will... an action packed non-stop double feature (CD/DVD combo). I wanted to
give my fans the most I could, from twenty tracks, to multi platinum special
guests to an extravagant DVD - free of charge... and the best production the
mid-west has to offer!
Review: Who are the key people that you worked with on 'Tales
from the Sick' that you feel helped inform and shape it's sound?
Prozak: Michael "SEVEN" Summers, Mike E. Clark, Robert Rebeck, Saginaw's
own Gee Pierce, and big Krizz Kaliko.
Review: With the CD breaking out so swift after its release, how did
it feel to see it land at #52 on Billboard, out-pacing that of other more
established artists in the genre?
Prozak: It felt well deserved, because of the insane amount of work, and
promotion we did, but it also felt surreal and amazing! Seeing my name above
JAY-Z and other a-list star names was very crazy!
Review: What is the plan and schedule behind 'Tales from the Sick'? You
mentioned you'd be touring larger theatres - 5,000 seaters. How long will you be
touring and what are some of the venues you'll be performing at? I believe
you said the marketing budget is $1.5 million - how does it feel to have so much
behind you? Also, if you could clarify the scope of the marketing campaign
- I recall you saying there were 19 billboards in Saginaw alone - how many total
billboards, and busses are you plastering and in how many cities?
Prozak: I have over a hundred shows lined up with two separate U.S.
tours between now and the end of 2008. As far as venues, we are playing large
capacity theatres such as the State Theatre in Detroit (Now the Fillmore)
In fact I play the Fillmore Theatre in Detroit August 24th with
Tech N9ne, The KottonMouth Kings, and Hed P.E. As far as
billboards, we have over a hundred in the mid-west and some on the west and east
coast.
We did a large run of commercials on MTV, Sci-Fi Channel, Comedy Central
and many more, as well as a huge street and Internet push. I also shot and
directed a dozen commercials myself intended for viral purpose. This is the
youtube.com world now, plus we also put full page ads in several national
magazines and weekly publications.
Review: Can you talk a bit about the changes in the recording
business. You mentioned that 'Tales from the Sick' is independently produced and
distributed by Universal. How did all that work and how much of your own
hard-earned money did you have to pony up to the plate?
Prozak: Yes this album is distributed by FONTANA, which is a
Universal Music Group company. My business partner and me signed a deal with
Strange Music INC., which has a label distribution deal with Universal. As
far as how much money we have personally wrapped up into this album, lets just
say it's over Two Million. We are completely self funded and get no backing from
our distributor.
Review: find it truly admirable that you don't say you're from
Detroit, but proudly claim ownership of hailing from Saginaw. What do most
of your famous contemporaries say when you tell them you're from Saginaw? What
is the 'outsiders' perspective of our fair city?
Prozak: I've always kept it real trying to put Saginaw on the map. Even
in the new issue of THE SOURCE magazine (a National Hip-Hop bible, a'la
Rolling Stone) you'll see that they reference Saginaw repeatedly in both my
album review and my interview.
I even have TWISTA shouting out Saginaw at the beginning of "WHY", track
number 9 on my album. I also decided to shoot my last music video here in
Saginaw and spend all $150,000 dollars of the budget in this city. The
video was for the song "GOOD ENOUGH" and was shot in Old Town Saginaw and at the
Temple Theatre.
You can see the music video for GOOD ENOUGH on the bonus DVD, titled THE
HITCHCOCK OF HIP HOP, which comes free inside my new album. The video stars
Irwin Keys, a legendary character actor from Hollywood, who has stared in
films like The Warriors, House of 1000 Corpses, Friday the 13th, Tales
From The Crypt, The Flintstones 1 and 2, and so many more!
Review: What is your future plans after the tour? You
mentioned you're going to start cracking on yet another new CD, so feel free to
talk about that.
Prozak: As soon as I get off tour in November, I will be preparing for
WickedStock 7, an annual show I put on every year. This year Wickedstock
will be held at the Birch Run Expo Center, Saturday December 6th.
After Wickedstock I plan to record my next album, which will be set for a Summer
2009 release. Of course people can expect a huge track listing, amazing special
guests, another bonus DVD, and who knows what else.
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